Tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-alpha inhibits insulin signaling through stimulation of the p55 TNF receptor and activation of sphingomyelinase

Tumor necrosis factor (TNF)-alpha plays a central role in the state of insulin resistance associated with obesity. It has previously been shown that one important mechanism by which TNF-alpha interferes with insulin signaling is through the serine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate-1 (IRS-1), which can then function as an inhibitor of the tyrosine kinase activity of the insulin receptor (IR). However, the receptors and the signaling pathway used by TNF-alpha that mediate the inhibition of IR activity are unknown. We show here that human TNF-alpha, which binds only to the murine p55 TNF receptor (TNFR), is as effective at inhibiting insulin-dependent tyrosine phosphorylation of IR and IRS-1 in adipocytes and myeloid 32D cells as murine TNF-alpha, which binds to both p55 TNFR and p75 TNFR. Likewise, antibodies that are specific agonists for p55 TNFR or p75 TNFR demonstrate that stimulation of p55 TNFR is sufficient to inhibit insulin signaling, though a small effect can also be seen with antibodies to p75 TNFR. Exogenous sphingomyelinase and ceramides, known to be formed by activation of p55 TNFR, inhibit IR and IRS-1 tyrosine phosphorylation and convert IRS-1 into an inhibitor of IR tyrosine kinase in vitro. Myeloid 32D cells expressing IR and IRS-1 are sensitive to this inhibition, but cells expressing IR and IRS-2 are resistant, pointing to an important difference in the biological function between IRS-1 and IRS-2. These data strongly suggest that TNF-alpha inhibits insulin signaling via stimulation of p55 TNFR and sphingomyelinase activity, which results in the production of an inhibitory form of IRS-1.     

Growth hormone and prolactin stimulate tyrosine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate-1, -2, and -3, their association with p85 phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase (PI3-kinase), and concomitantly PI3-kinase activation via JAK2 kinase

Growth hormone (GH) and prolactin (PRL) binding to their receptors, which belong to the cytokine receptor superfamily, activate Janus kinase (JAK) 2 tyrosine kinase, thereby leading to their biological actions. We recently showed that GH mainly stimulated tyrosine phosphorylation of epidermal growth factor receptor and its association with Grb2, and concomitantly stimulated mitogen-activated protein kinase activity in liver, a major target tissue. Using specific antibodies, we now show that GH was also able to induce tyrosine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate (IRS)-1/IRS-2 in liver. In addition, the major tyrosine-phosphorylated protein in anti-p85 phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase (PI3-kinase) immunoprecipitate from liver of wild-type mice was IRS-1, and IRS-2 in IRS-1 deficient mice, but not epidermal growth factor receptor. These data suggest that tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-1 may be a major mechanism for GH-induced PI3-kinase activation in physiological target organ of GH, liver. We also show that PRL was able to induce tyrosine phosphorylation of both IRS-1 and IRS-2 in COS cells transiently transfected with PRLR and in CHO-PRLR cells. Moreover, we show that tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-3 was induced by both GH and PRL in COS cells transiently transfected with IRS-3 and their cognate receptors. By using the JAK2-deficient cell lines or by expressing a dominant negative JAK2 mutant, we show that JAK2 is required for the GH- and PRL-dependent tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-1, -2, and -3. Finally, a specific PI3-kinase inhibitor, wortmannin, completely blocked the anti-lipolytic effect of GH in 3T3 L1 adipocytes. Taken together, the role of IRS-1, -2, and -3 in GH and PRL signalings appears to be phosphorylated by JAK2, thereby providing docking sites for p85 PI3-kinase and activating PI3-kinase and its downstream biological effects.     

Leptin activates PI-3 kinase in C2C12 myotubes via janus kinase-2 (JAK-2) and insulin receptor substrate-2 (IRS-2) dependent pathways

We have recently shown that leptin mimicks insulin effects on glucose transport and glycogen synthesis through a phosphatidylinositol-3 (PI) kinase dependent pathway in C2C12 myotubes. The aim of the present study was to identify the signalling path from the leptin receptor to the PI-3 kinase. We stimulated C2C12 myotubes with insulin (100 nmol/l, 5 min) or leptin (0.62 nmol/l, 10 min) and determined PI-3 kinase activity in immunoprecipitates with specific non-crossreacting antibodies against insulin-receptor substrate (IRS 1/IRS 2) and against janus kinase (JAK 1 and JAK 2). While insulin-stimulated PI-3 kinase activity is detected in IRS-1 and IRS-2 immunoprecipitates, leptin-stimulated PI-3 kinase activity is found only in IRS-2 immunoprecipitates, suggesting that the leptin signal to PI-3 kinase occurs via IRS-2 and not IRS-1. Leptin-, but not insulin-stimulated PI-3 kinase activity is also detected in immunoprecipitates with antibodies against JAK-2, but not JAK-1. The data suggest that JAK-2 and IRS-2 couple the leptin signalling pathway to the insulin signalling chain. Since we have also detected leptin-stimulated tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK-2 and IRS-2 in C2C12 myotubes it can be assumed that leptin activates JAK-2 which induces tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-2 leading to activation of PI-3 kinase. As we could not detect the long leptin receptor isoform in C2C12 myotubes we conclude that this signalling pathway is activated by a short leptin receptor isoform.     

Growth hormone, interferon-gamma, and leukemia inhibitory factor utilize insulin receptor substrate-2 in intracellular signaling

In this report, we demonstrate that insulin receptor substrate-2 (IRS-2) is tyrosyl-phosphorylated following stimulation of 3T3-F442A fibroblasts with growth hormone (GH), leukemia inhibitory factor and interferon-gamma. In response to GH and leukemia inhibitory factor, IRS-2 is immediately phosphorylated, with maximal phosphorylation detected at 15 min; the signal is substantially diminished by 60 min. In response to interferon-gamma, tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-2 was prolonged, with substantial signal still detected at 60 min. Characterization of the mechanism of signaling utilized by GH indicated that tyrosine residues in GH receptor are not necessary for tyrosyl phosphorylation of IRS-2; however, the regions of GH receptor necessary for IRS-2 tyrosyl phosphorylation are the same as those required for JAK2 association and tyrosyl phosphorylation. The role of IRS-2 as a signaling molecule for GH is further demonstrated by the finding that GH stimulates association of IRS-2 with the 85-kDa regulatory subunit of phosphatidylinositol 3'-kinase and with the protein-tyrosine phosphatase SHP2. These results are consistent with the possibility that IRS-2 is a downstream signaling partner of multiple members of the cytokine family of receptors that activate JAK kinases.     

Regulation of radiation-induced apoptosis in oncogene-transfected fibroblasts: influence of H-ras on the G2 delay

The high-affinity receptor (R) for IL-5 consists of a unique alpha chain (IL-5R alpha) and a beta chain (beta c) that is shared with the receptors for IL-3 and granulocyte macrophage colony stimulating factor (GM-CSF). We defined two regions of IL-5R alpha for the IL-5-induced proliferative response, the expression of nuclear proto-oncogenes, and the tyrosine phosphorylation of cellular proteins including beta c, SH2/SH3-containing proteins and JAK2 kinase. In the studies described here, we demonstrate that IL-5, IL-3 or GM-CSF stimulation induces the tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK2, and to a lesser extent JAK1, and of STAT5. Mutational analysis revealed that one of the proline residues, particularly Pro352 and Pro355, in the membrane-proximal proline-rich sequence (Pro352-Pro353-X-Pro355) of the cytoplasmic domain of IL-5R alpha is required for cell proliferation, and for both JAK1 and JAK2 activation. In addition, transfectants expressing chimeric receptors which consist of the extracellular domain of IL-5R alpha and the cytoplasmic domain of beta c responded to IL-5 for proliferation and tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK1. Intriguingly, electrophoretic mobility shift assay analysis revealed that STAT5 was activated in cells showing either JAK1 or JAK2 tyrosine phosphorylation. These results indicate that activation of JAK1, JAK2 and STAT5 is critical to coupling IL-5-induced tyrosine phosphorylation and ultimately mitogenesis, and that Pro352 and Pro355 in the proline-rich sequence appear to play more essential roles in cell growth and in both JAK1/STAT5 and JAK2/STAT5 activation than Pro353 does.     

Phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate 1 by glycogen synthase kinase 3 impairs insulin action

The phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate 1 (IRS-1) on tyrosine residues by the insulin receptor (IR) tyrosine kinase is involved in most of the biological responses of insulin. IRS-1 mediates insulin signaling by recruiting SH2 proteins through its multiple tyrosine phosphorylation sites. The phosphorylation of IRS-1 on serine/threonine residues also occurs in cells; however, the particular protein kinase(s) promoting this type of phosphorylation are unknown. Here we report that glycogen synthase kinase 3 (GSK-3) is capable of phosphorylating IRS-1 and that this modification converts IRS-1 into an inhibitor of IR tyrosine kinase activity in vitro. Expression of wild-type GSK-3 or an "unregulated" mutant of the kinase (S9A) in CHO cells overexpressing IRS-1 and IR, resulted in increased serine phosphorylation levels of IRS-1, suggesting that IRS-1 is a cellular target of GSK-3. Furthermore, insulin-induced tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-1 and IR was markedly suppressed in cells expressing wild-type or the S9A mutant, indicating that expression of GSK-3 impairs IR tyrosine kinase activity. Taken together, our studies suggest a new role for GSK-3 in attenuating insulin signaling via its phosphorylation of IRS-1 and may provide new insight into mechanisms important in insulin resistance.     

Protein tyrosine phosphatase 2 (SHP-2) moderates signaling by gp130 but is not required for the induction of acute-phase plasma protein genes in hepatic cells

Signals propagated via the gp130 subunit of the interleukin-6 (IL-6)-type cytokine receptors mediate, among various cellular responses, proliferation of hematopoietic cells and induction of acute-phase plasma protein (APP) genes in hepatic cells. Hematopoietic growth control by gp130 is critically dependent on activation of both STAT3 and protein tyrosine phosphatase 2 (SHP-2). To investigate whether induction of APP genes has a similar requirement for SHP-2, we constructed two chimeric receptors, G-gp130 and G-gp130(Y2F), consisting of the transmembrane and cytoplasmic domains of gp130 harboring either a wild-type or a mutated SHP-2 binding site, respectively, fused to the extracellular domain of the granulocyte colony-stimulating factor (G-CSF) receptor. Rat hepatoma H-35 cells stably expressing the chimeric receptors were generated by retroviral transduction. Both chimeric receptors transmitted a G-CSF-induced signal characteristic of that triggered by IL-6 through the endogenous gp130 receptor; i.e., both activated the appropriate JAK, induced DNA binding activity by STAT1 and STAT3, and up-regulated expression of the target APP genes, those for alpha-fibrinogen and haptoglobin. Notwithstanding these similarities in the patterns of signaling responses elicited, mutation of the SHP-2 interaction site in G-gp130(Y2F) abrogated ligand-activated receptor recruitment of SHP-2 as expected. Moreover, the tyrosine phosphorylation state of the chimeric receptor, the associated JAK activity, and the induced DNA binding activity of STAT1 and STAT3 were maintained at elevated levels and for an extended period of time in G-gp130(Y2F)-expressing cells following G-CSF treatment compared to that in cells displaying the G-gp130 receptor. H-35 cells ectopically expressing G-gp130(Y2F) were also found to display an enhanced sensitivity to G-CSF and a higher level of induction of APP genes. Overexpression of the enzymatically inactive SHP-2 enhanced the signaling by the wild-type but not by the Y2F mutant G-gp130 receptor. These results indicate that gp130 signaling for APP gene induction in hepatic cells differs qualitatively from that controlling the proliferative response in hematopoietic cells in not being strictly dependent on SHP-2. The data further suggest that SHP-2 functions normally to attenuate gp130-mediated signaling in hepatic (and, perhaps, other) cells by moderating JAK action.     

Growth hormone stimulates tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK2 and STAT5, but not insulin receptor substrate-1 or SHC proteins in liver and skeletal muscle of normal rats in vivo

GH has been shown to stimulate tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK2, several STAT proteins, insulin receptor substrate-1 (IRS-1), and SHC proteins in cultured cells. The goal of this study was to determine GH effects on protein tyrosine phosphorylation in liver and skeletal muscle of normal rats in vivo. Nonfasted male Sprague-Dawley rats (225-250 g) were injected with GH iv, and tissues were obtained after 5, 15, 30, or 60 min. At a maximally effective GH dose (1.5 mg/kg body weight), phosphotyrosine antibody immunoblots demonstrated marked stimulation of the tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK2 (maximal at 5 min) and a 95,000 Mr protein (maximal at 15 min) in both liver and skeletal muscle. The 95,000 Mr protein was recognized and immunodepleted by STAT5 antibody, but not by other STAT protein antibodies. Although basal tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-1 and SHC was evident, GH did not stimulate tyrosine phosphorylation of either of these proteins in liver or skeletal muscle. In conclusion, GH stimulates the tyrosine phosphorylation of JAK2 and STAT5, but not IRS-1, SHC, or other STAT proteins in liver and skeletal muscle of normal rats. These results differ from findings in cultured cells and support the concept that selectivity for tyrosine kinase substrates is an important determinant of postreceptor signaling specificity in vivo.     

The pleckstrin homology and phosphotyrosine binding domains of insulin receptor substrate 1 mediate inhibition of apoptosis by insulin

Insulin and insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) evoke diverse biological effects through receptor-mediated tyrosine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate (IRS) proteins. We investigated the elements of IRS-1 signaling that inhibit apoptosis of interleukin 3 (IL-3)-deprived 32D myeloid progenitor cells. 32D cells have few insulin receptors and no IRS proteins; therefore, insulin failed to inhibit apoptosis during IL-3 withdrawal. Insulin stimulated mitogen-activated protein kinase in 32D cells expressing insulin receptors (32DIR) but failed to activate the phosphatidylinositol 3 (PI 3)-kinase cascade or to inhibit apoptosis. By contrast, insulin stimulated the PI 3-kinase cascade, inhibited apoptosis, and promoted replication of 32DIR cells expressing IRS-1. As expected, insulin did not stimulate PI 3-kinase in 32DIR cells, which expressed a truncated IRS-1 protein lacking the tail of tyrosine phosphorylation sites. However, this truncated IRS-1 protein, which retained the NH2-terminal pleckstrin homology (PH) and phosphotyrosine binding (PTB) domains, mediated phosphorylation of PKB/akt, inhibition of apoptosis, and replication of 32DIR cells during insulin stimulation. These results suggest that a phosphotyrosine-independent mechanism mediated by the PH and PTB domains promoted antiapoptotic and growth actions of insulin. Although PI 3-kinase was not activated, its phospholipid products were required, since LY294002 inhibited these responses. Without IRS-1, a chimeric insulin receptor containing a tail of tyrosine phosphorylation sites derived from IRS-1 activated the PI 3-kinase cascade but failed to inhibit apoptosis. Thus, phosphotyrosine-independent IRS-1-linked pathways may be critical for survival and growth of IL-3-deprived 32D cells during insulin stimulation.     

Involvement of the Src homology 2-containing tyrosine phosphatase SHP-2 in growth hormone signaling

Growth hormone (GH) signaling requires activation of the GH receptor (GHR)-associated tyrosine kinase, JAK2. JAK2 activation by GH is believed to facilitate initiation of various pathways including the Ras, mitogen-activated protein kinase, STAT, insulin receptor substrate (IRS), and phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase systems. In the present study, we explore the biochemical and functional involvement of the Src homology 2 (SH2)-containing protein-tyrosine phosphatase, SHP-2, in GH signaling. GH stimulation of murine NIH 3T3-F442A fibroblasts, cells that homologously express GHRs, resulted in tyrosine phosphorylation of SHP-2. As assessed specifically by anti-SHP-2 coimmunoprecipitation and by affinity precipitation with a glutathione S-transferase fusion protein incorporating the SH2 domains of SHP-2, GH induced formation of a complex of tyrosine phosphoproteins including SHP-2, GHR, JAK2, and a glycoprotein with properties consistent with being a SIRP-alpha-like molecule. A reciprocal binding assay using IM-9 cells as a source of SHP-1 and SHP-2 revealed specific association of SHP-2 (but not SHP-1) with a glutathione S-transferase fusion incorporating GHR cytoplasmic domain residues 485-620, but only if the fusion was first rendered tyrosine-phosphorylated. GH-dependent tyrosine phosphorylation of SHP-2 was also observed in murine 32D cells (which lack IRS-1 and -2) stably transfected with the GHR. Further, GH-dependent anti-SHP-2 coimmunoprecipitation of the Grb2 adapter protein was detected in both 3T3-F442A and 32D-rGHR cells, indicating that biochemical involvement of SHP-2 in GH signaling may not require IRS-1 or -2. Finally, GH-induced transactivation of a c-Fos enhancer-driven luciferase reporter in GHR- and JAK2-transfected COS-7 cells was significantly reduced when a catalytically inactive SHP-2 mutant (but not wild-type SHP-2) was coexpressed; in contrast, expression of a catalytically inactive SHP-1 mutant allowed modestly enhanced GH-induced transactivation of the reporter in comparison with that found with expression of wild-type SHP-1. Collectively, these biochemical and functional data imply a positive role for SHP-2 in GH signaling.     

Erythropoietin induces the tyrosine phosphorylation of insulin receptor substrate-2. An alternate pathway for erythropoietin-induced phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase activation

In this report, we demonstrate that insulin receptor substrate-2 (IRS-2) is phosphorylated on tyrosine following treatment of UT-7 cells with erythropoietin. We have investigated the expression of IRS-1 and IRS-2 in several cell lines with erythroid and/or megakaryocytic features, and we observed that IRS-2 was expressed in all cell lines tested. In contrast, we did not detect the expression of IRS-1 in these cells. In response to erythropoietin, IRS-2 was immediately phosphorylated on tyrosine, with maximal phosphorylation between 1 and 5 min. Tyrosine-phosphorylated IRS-2 was associated with phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase and with a 140-kDa protein that comigrated with the phosphatidylinositol-3,4,5-trisphosphate 5-phosphatase, SHIP. Moreover, IRS-2 was constitutively associated with the erythropoietin receptor. We did not observe the association of IRS-2 with JAK2, Grb2, or PTP1D. Using BaF3 cells transfected with mutated erythropoietin receptors, we demonstrate that neither the tyrosine residues of the intracellular domain nor the last 109 amino acids of the erythropoietin receptor are required for erythropoietin-induced IRS-2 tyrosine phosphorylation. Altogether, our results indicate that erythropoietin-induced IRS-2 tyrosine phosphorylation could account for the previously reported activation of phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase mediated by erythropoietin receptors mutated in the phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase-binding site (Damen, J., Cutler, R. L., Jiao, H., Yi, T., and Krystal, G. (1995) J. Biol. Chem. 270, 23402-23406; Gobert, S., Porteu, F., Pallu, S., Muller, O., Sabbah, M., Dusanter-Fourt, I., Courtois, G., Lacombe, C., Gisselbrecht, S., and Mayeux, P. (1995) Blood 86, 598-606).     

Interaction of insulin receptor substrate-1 with the sigma3A subunit of the adaptor protein complex-3 in cultured adipocytes

Signaling through the insulin receptor tyrosine kinase involves its autophosphorylation in response to insulin and the subsequent tyrosine phosphorylation of substrate proteins such as insulin receptor substrate-1 (IRS-1). In basal 3T3-L1 adipocytes, IRS-1 is predominantly membrane-bound, and this localization may be important in targeting downstream signaling elements that mediate insulin action. Since IRS-1 localization to membranes may occur through its association with specific membrane proteins, a 3T3-F442A adipocyte cDNA expression library was screened with non-tyrosine-phosphorylated, baculovirus-expressed IRS-1 in order to identify potential IRS-1 receptors. A cDNA clone that encodes sigma3A, a small subunit of the AP-3 adaptor protein complex, was demonstrated to bind IRS-1 utilizing this cloning strategy. The specific interaction between IRS-1 and sigma3A was further verified by in vitro binding studies employing baculovirus-expressed IRS-1 and a glutathione S-transferase (GST)-sigma3A fusion protein. IRS-1 and sigma3A were found to co-fractionate in a detergent-resistant population of low density membranes isolated from basal 3T3-L1 adipocytes. Importantly, the addition of exogenous purified GST-sigma3A to low density membranes caused the release of virtually all of the IRS-1 bound to these membranes, while GST alone had no effect. These results are consistent with the hypothesis that sigma3A serves as an IRS-1 receptor that may dictate the subcellular localization and the signaling functions of IRS-1.     

Effects of tyrosine kinase inhibitors on tyrosine phosphorylations and the insulin-like effects in response to human growth hormone in isolated rat adipocytes

Recent data suggest involvement of the Janus tyrosine kinase-2 (JAK2) in human GH-induced tyrosine phosphorylation of the GH receptor and the insulin receptor substrates 1 and 2 (IRS-1 and IRS-2), leading to activation of the phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase and the acute insulin-like effects in primary rat adipocytes. To investigate the functional role of this kinase, we screened a number of tyrosine kinase inhibitors for their ability to inhibit three rapid effects of GH on primary adipocytes: increased lipogenesis, inhibition of noradrenaline-induced lipolysis, and promotion of JAK2 tyrosine phosphorylation. Only staurosporine was found to inhibit all three effects. The inhibition of lipogenesis and antilipolysis exhibited the same staurosporine dose dependency (IC50, approximately 40 nM) as inhibition of JAK2 and IRS-1 tyrosine phosphorylation as well as binding of the p85 subunit of phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase to IRS-1 and IRS-2. The unidentified cytosolic tyrosine-phosphorylated protein pp95, in contrast, was not affected, suggesting that it is not phosphorylated primarily by JAK2. Protein kinase C does not seem to be directly involved in the insulin-like effects, because the selective protein kinase C inhibitor calphostin C had no effect at levels up to 100 nM above which unspecific cellular effects occurred. Methyl-2,5-dihydroxy cinnamate inhibited GH-induced lipogenesis from [3-3H]glucose and nonstimulated lipogenesis from [2-14C]-pyruvate and [3H]acetate, but was without effect on GH-induced 2-deoxy-D-[1-3H]glucose uptake, JAK2 phosphorylation and antilipolysis, suggesting unspecific effects on mitochondrial metabolism rather than a direct effect on the GH-mediated signal. Tyrphostin 25 and herbimycin A had no effect on any of the parameters studied, except for a slight increase in JAK2 phosphorylation in response to tyrphostin 25. In summary, these data support the role for JAK2 in mediating the insulin-like effects of GH in adipocytes.     

The pleckstrin homology domain is the principal link between the insulin receptor and IRS-1

Interaction domains located in the NH2 terminus of IRS-1 mediate its recognition by the insulin receptor. Alignment of IRS-1 and IRS-2 reveals two homology regions: the IH1(PH) contains a pleckstrin homology (PH) domain, and the IH2(PTB) contains a phosphotyrosine binding (PTB) domain. A third region in IRS-1 called SAIN was proposed to contain another functional PTB domain. Peptide competition experiments demonstrated that the IH2(PTB) in IRS-2, like the corresponding domain in IRS-1, binds directly to peptides containing NPXY motifs. In contrast, these peptides do not bind to IH1(PH) or the SAIN regions. In 32D cells the IH1(PH) was essential for insulin-stimulated tyrosine phosphorylation of IRS-1 and insulin-stimulated phosphatidylinositol 3-kinase activity and p70(s6k) phosphorylation. In contrast, the IH2(PTB) and the SAIN regions were not required for these insulin actions; however, the IH2(PTB) improved the coupling between IRS-1 and the insulin receptor. Overexpression of the insulin receptor in 32DIR cells increased IRS-1 tyrosine phosphorylation and mediated insulin-stimulated DNA synthesis. The sensitivity of these responses was partially reduced by deletion of either the IH1(PH) or the IH2(PTB) and significantly reduced when both regions were deleted together. Thus, the PH and PTB domains equally couple IRS-1 to high levels of insulin receptor normally expressed in most cells, whereas at low levels of insulin receptors the PTB domain is inefficient and the PH domain is essential for a productive interaction.